kim! I«m so sorry, the quicktime files i ULed is compressed with Miro-DC20, I guess you don«t have that card?! So I UL a new version of this liobeat.mov file again now as animated JPEG, far from the same quality but you ight get the idea of it, I hope. -- liobeat.mov is also made with the a/v-box, but the sound-in is one of my own tracks. There is also a big difference (now since you probably haven«t DLed the BIG one, you won«t notice), since this time I used a digital treatmeant instead of analog, which means that this one got colors and digital-glitch instead of grayscale and analog-glitches. So this one doesn«t look anything near Gert-Jan Prins version of it :). I cut it down to 12sec. lowres, so now it«s down to 16.1Mb. Enjoy. -- erase all other .mov«s but this "okliobeat.mov"! /andreas